{"id":7033,"date":"2019-03-22T18:51:11","date_gmt":"2019-03-22T16:51:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/?p=7033"},"modified":"2019-04-02T15:07:53","modified_gmt":"2019-04-02T13:07:53","slug":"despre-alimentatie-discutii-in-contradictoriu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/2019\/03\/despre-alimentatie-discutii-in-contradictoriu\/","title":{"rendered":"Despre alimenta\u021bie \u2013 discu\u021bii \u00een contradictoriu"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Despre alimenta\u021bie \u2013 discu\u021bii \u00een contradictoriu<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

Deun\u0103zi am avut o discu\u021bie cu Relu pe tema alimenta\u021biei care s-a transformat pentru el \u201d\u00eentr-o lupt\u0103 pe via\u021b\u0103 \u0219i pe moarte\u201d, emo\u021bional\u0103 bine\u00een\u021beles, pentru protec\u021bia propriei situa\u021bii. Cum a\u0219a?<\/p>\n

Simplu: totul a plecat de la cele 2 felii de p\u00e2ine alb\u0103 pe care \u00eentinsese o crem\u0103\/pateu de linte neagr\u0103. Fain, pate de linte neagr\u0103 \u00eenseamn\u0103 mul\u021bi nutrien\u021bi de care corpul abia a\u0219teapt\u0103 s\u0103 aib\u0103 parte. Dar p\u00e2ine alb\u0103??! Really? Dup\u0103 ce le-am mai livrat povestea cu p\u00e2inea alb\u0103 de mai multe ori?? Pare c\u0103 nu \u00eei intereseaz\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 la cap\u0103t treaba cu alimenta\u021bia… \u201dP\u0103i, tu \u0219tii c\u00e2t merg eu \u00een fiecare zi?? \u00cen jur de 15.000 de pa\u0219i fac, mediu, pe zi. Crezi c\u0103 mai am chef la sf\u00e2r\u0219itul zilei s\u0103 caut p\u00e2ine integral\u0103?!\u201d \u2013 zice Elena sigur\u0103 pe ea. \ud83d\ude09\u00a0<\/p>\n

Eu:<\/strong> P\u0103i cum vine asta?? Adic\u0103 sunte\u021bi aten\u021bi m\u0103car la parte din alimentele pe care le m\u00e2nca\u021bi \u00eens\u0103 p\u00e2inea nu mai conteaz\u0103?! Chiar dac\u0103 n-are \u00een ea dec\u00e2t gr\u0103sime vegetal\u0103 care se lipe\u0219te de stomac \u0219i de intestine, \u00eempiedic\u0103 digestia (tuturor alimentelor din tine!) \u0219i favorizeaz\u0103 un mediu acid? Nu mai \u00een\u021beleg. \ud83d\ude44\u00a0<\/p>\n

Elena:<\/strong> Tu nu \u00een\u021belegi c\u0103 nu \u0219tiu de unde? Alerg toat\u0103 ziua, \u00eemi iau un covrig dac\u0103 mi-e foame tare \u0219i c\u00e2nd ajung acas\u0103 nu mai am chef de nicio c\u0103utare, iau p\u00e2inea care-mi este la \u00eendem\u00e2n\u0103.<\/p>\n

Eu:<\/strong> Sunt doar at\u00e2tea locuri care au \u00eenceput s\u0103 v\u00e2nd\u0103 p\u00e2ine integral\u0103, inclusiv un lan\u021b de magazine reprezentativ peste tot \u00een Bucure\u0219ti \u2013 \u0219i tu zici c\u0103 nu \u0219tii, c\u0103 nu g\u0103se\u0219ti… Cum s\u0103 m\u0103n\u00e2nci covrigi din f\u0103in\u0103 alb\u0103??! N-au nimic hr\u0103nitor \u00een ei. Acu\u0219i va fi platforma noastr\u0103 gata, vei g\u0103si acolo toate brut\u0103riile din Bucure\u0219ti \u0219i din \u021bar\u0103 pe care le \u0219tim. Atunci ce mai zici? Vor fi \u0219i locurile unde m\u0103n\u00e2nci s\u0103n\u0103tos \u2013 c\u0103 op\u021biuni sunt mult mai multe acum. Uite, noi mergem de exemplu la un bistro unde au cei mai buni burgeri vegani pe care i-am m\u00e2ncat vreodat\u0103, nu conteaz\u0103 unde.<\/p>\n

Relu (\u00eemp\u0103ciuitor):<\/strong> da, m\u0103, \u0219tiu, adu-\u021bi aminte c\u00e2nd m\u00e2ncai tu carne \u2013 m\u00e2ncai numai carne de gr\u0103tar toat\u0103 ziua.<\/p>\n

Eu:<\/strong> da, a\u0219a este. \u0218i mi-a luat o gr\u0103mad\u0103 de timp s\u0103 m\u0103 prind c\u00e2t de r\u0103u \u00eemi face \u0219i acum, c\u0103 \u0219tiu, v\u0103 zic \u0219i vou\u0103. De ce s\u0103 face\u021bi \u0219i voi acelea\u0219i prostii ca \u0219i mine?<\/p>\n

Relu:<\/strong> hai c\u0103 nu e a\u0219a. Uite, la noi \u00een cartier fac \u0103\u0219tia de la restaurantul din cartier ni\u0219te burgeri cu carne Angus de n-am m\u00e2ncat nic\u0103ieri a\u0219a ceva. Au m\u0103cel\u0103ria lor…<\/p>\n

Eu (m\u0103 uit la Relu blocat \u0219i i-o retez f\u0103r\u0103 drept de apel):<\/strong> auzi, tu e\u0219ti serios?? Adic\u0103 eu vorbesc aici de m\u00e2ncare vegan\u0103, de alimenta\u021bie, de via\u021b\u0103 s\u0103n\u0103toas\u0103 \u2013 cum s\u0103 tr\u0103ie\u0219ti c\u00e2t mai mult \u0219i s\u0103n\u0103tos, iar tu-mi vorbe\u0219ti de hamburger cu carne? Faci mi\u0219to de mine? \ud83d\ude2f\u00a0<\/p>\n

Relu:<\/strong> nu m\u0103, dar nici n-ai auzit ce vreau s\u0103…<\/p>\n

Eu (ridic tonul, schimb ritmul \u0219i pozi\u021bia de pe canapea):<\/strong> nici nu m\u0103 intereseaz\u0103!! Auzi? NU M\u0102 INTERESEAZ\u0102. Eu vorbesc degeaba aici?? \ud83d\ude2f \ud83d\ude2f \ud83d\ude2f\u00a0<\/p>\n

Relu:<\/strong> b\u0103 tu ai uitat cum erai. E bine cum e\u0219ti acum, dar nu trebuie s\u0103 fii extremist…<\/p>\n

Eu (reduc intensitatea):<\/strong> adic\u0103 cum extremist? Faptul c\u0103 acum \u0219tiu c\u00e2t de r\u0103u \u00eemi face carnea \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 sunt extremist? Dac\u0103 vreau s\u0103 fiu s\u0103n\u0103tos \u0219i m\u0103 alimentez \u00een loc s\u0103 m\u0103n\u00e2nc tot felul de t\u00e2mpenii, ca mare parte a popula\u021biei din Rom\u00e2nia \u2013 peste 90% (dau \u0219i eu un procent din burt\u0103 \u2013 cine a f\u0103cut vreo statistic\u0103?), \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 sunt extremist? Tu te ui\u021bi \u00een jurul t\u0103u? Vezi s\u0103racii oameni cum mor la 50-60 de ani, de diverse boli? \u00cei vezi ce deforma\u021bi sunt de la c\u00e2t\u0103 carne \u0219i alte t\u00e2mpenii m\u0103n\u00e2nc\u0103??! Eu sunt extremist?? \ud83d\ude41\u00a0<\/p>\n

Relu:<\/strong> da, ai dreptate, dar trebuie s\u0103 m\u0103 iei mai u\u0219or. Fac schimbarea, dar mai u\u0219or. Tu nu ai f\u0103cut-o la fel?<\/p>\n

Eu:<\/strong> da, am \u00eenceput din 2011-2012, \u0219i da, e normal s\u0103 o iei u\u0219or dac\u0103 nu po\u021bi mai repede. Dar nu vii s\u0103-mi faci apologia burgerului cu carne Angus din cartier c\u00e2nd vorbim de alimenta\u021bie s\u0103n\u0103toas\u0103. Nu m\u0103 mai intereseaz\u0103 asemenea t\u00e2mpenii!<\/p>\n

Intervine Elena:<\/strong> auzi, s\u0103 \u0219tii c\u0103 eu am \u00eencercat, dar nu pot. Mi se face r\u0103u.<\/p>\n

Eu:<\/strong> cum adic\u0103? Ce vrei s\u0103 spui?<\/p>\n

Elena:<\/strong> n-am m\u00e2ncat carne \u0219i ou\u0103 dou\u0103 zile \u0219i mi s-a f\u0103cut r\u0103u. Cum am gustat un pic de ou, mi-am revenit…<\/p>\n

Eu \ud83d\ude2f (cu ochii ie\u0219i\u021bi din orbite):<\/strong> cum adic\u0103? Adic\u0103 \u021bi-e r\u0103u, m\u0103n\u00e2nci un ou \u0219i-n 5 minute \u00ee\u021bi revii? P\u0103i nici n-a ajuns bine oul \u00een stomac. Carnea \u0219i ou\u0103le au nevoie de 24-48 ore ca s\u0103 se digere \u0219i elimine.<\/p>\n

Elena (o \u00eendulce\u0219te):<\/strong> ei, nu \u00een 5 minute. A\u0219a, \u00een vreo or\u0103-dou\u0103…<\/p>\n

………………………….<\/p>\n

Discu\u021bia a mai continuat foarte pu\u021bin pe subiectul alimenta\u021bie dup\u0103 care am schimbat-o subit pe altele. Interesant este c\u00e2t de ata\u0219a\u021bi suntem de m\u00e2ncare. Ca probabil aproape tuturor celor care au schimbat modul de a m\u00e2nca, \u0219i mie mi-a fost extrem de greu s\u0103 o fac. Obi\u0219nuin\u021ba a fost prima piedic\u0103 important\u0103. Mi se p\u0103rea c\u0103 nu g\u0103sesc nimic de m\u00e2ncare s\u0103n\u0103tos sau c\u0103 e mult mai u\u0219or s\u0103-mi fac un sandwich cu salam \u0219i ca\u0219caval. Apoi societatea, mediul \u00een care tr\u0103im cu to\u021bii. Mul\u021bi se uit\u0103 \u0219i acum la mine ca la un ciudat. Ei bine, nu-mi pas\u0103. Nu-mi pas\u0103 \u00een sensul c\u0103 \u0219tiu cum f\u0103ceam \u0219i eu \u0219i \u00eei \u00een\u021beleg foarte bine. N-are niciun rost s\u0103 \u00eencerc s\u0103-i conving de ceva.<\/em> Cum n-ar fi trebuit s\u0103 \u00eencerc s\u0103-i conving nici pe bunii mei prieteni Relu \u0219i Elena. Pentru c\u0103, de fapt, fiecare trebuie s\u0103 se conving\u0103 singur. Dac\u0103 are de ce s\u0103 se conving\u0103.<\/p>\n

A\u0219a c\u0103 nu scriu asta ca s\u0103 v\u0103 conving de ceva. N-ave\u021bi dec\u00e2t s\u0103 v\u0103 convinge\u021bi singuri.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Cu drag,<\/p>\n

Sebastian<\/p>\n

22 martie 2019, Montignoso<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Deun\u0103zi am avut o discu\u021bie cu Relu pe tema alimenta\u021biei care s-a transformat pentru el \u201d\u00eentr-o lupt\u0103 pe via\u021b\u0103 \u0219i pe moarte\u201d, emo\u021bional\u0103 bine\u00een\u021beles, pentru protec\u021bia propriei situa\u021bii. Cum a\u0219a? Simplu: totul a plecat de la cele 2 felii de p\u00e2ine alb\u0103 pe care \u00eentinsese o crem\u0103\/pateu de linte neagr\u0103. Fain, pate de linte neagr\u0103…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":7287,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[154],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7033","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-alimente-si-bautura"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7033","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7033"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7033\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7286,"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7033\/revisions\/7286"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7287"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7033"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7033"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.viata.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7033"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}